Showing posts with label Rolling. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Rolling. Show all posts

February 4, 2015

Rolling down your window at a check point

georgia drivers licenseBy Jessica Towne

There's a "controversial" YouTube video by the Fair DUI flyer folks about how to get through a DUI checkpoint without comprising your 4th amendment rights or even worrying about your Miranda rights. In the video, which was shot in Florida, the driver has placed his drivers' license, proof of insurance and registration, along with a "fair DUI flyer" which reads "I remain silent. No searches. I want my lawyer" inside a clear baggie which hangs outside his window. Will the cops let him through? They do! A miracle! You can watch it here.


Let's break this down.
1. Any driver stopped by the police must give the officer a license.

There is NO REQUIREMENT to roll your window down.

2. You do have to stop at a checkpoint.

You do have to hand over your license. You don't have to answer any questions, and you don't have to get out of the car unless the officer has the legal right to require you to get out (to arrest you).

3. You do not have to follow unlawful commands. If your license is valid, there is no reason to arrest you for a license irregularity.

Most equipment and moving violations require you to sign a ticket. Make sure your baggy is big enough to hold a ticket and pen, and pull them into your car, sign and then give everything back to Officer Friendly.

This is what will happen in an ideal world. While looking for this video, I also came across a Georgia news video (not actual stop) telling what happened to a man who turned around to avoid the blue lights which he presumed meant accident and really meant DUI check, refused to roll down his window all the way and was arrested for obstruction. Now, will this hold up in court? The only thing that is for sure is that it will cost money to get it sorted out.

Continue Reading...

January 25, 2015

Man Gets Through DUI Checkpoint Without Rolling Down His Window

DUI Checkpoint

A man in Chiefland, Florida posted a video to YouTube showing how he pulled through a DUI checkpoint without ever rolling down his car window or speaking to the police. His solution? Attach a ziplock bag to the outside of his car that had his “Fair DUI” statement inside it, along with his license, insurance information and vehicle registration. Here’s the video:

The police handled the situation pretty smoothly and looked, at least to me, a little bemused by the whole thing. The driver, Jeff Gray, has a YouTube channel called “Honor Your Oath” where he encourages people to “Stay cool, Be polite, Flex Your Rights, and Always Film The Police.” Gray also says his goal is to “teach citizens that our rights do still exist, and to show how best to assert those rights.” Gray also points out that he is not an attorney.

Over a million people have watched the video. Two Sheriffs in Florida gave statements about what happened, which provoked this not-so-well-thought-out article.

So if Jeff Gray was able to cruise through a DUI checkpoint without ever rolling down his window or saying a word to the police, does that mean everyone can legally do that?

Let’s get some things straight first.

One, please don’t take video of something working once on YouTube as evidence that it will always work. That’s a twist on the old logical fallacy known in Latin as “argumentum ad traditio” – the appeal to tradition, although I guess we could update it as the “argumentum ad YouTubio” – the Appeal to YouTube.

Second, don’t take the fact that the police did nothing as evidence or confirmation that they couldn’t do anything. We’ll talk about this more below, but please understand that the police make mistakes. They’re not robots. Just because they didn’t stop Gray, or order him to roll down his window, get out of the car, etc., doesn’t mean that they couldn’t have. We’ll talk about the law on this in a moment, but as a matter of common sense don’t get these ideas confused.

Back in 1990 the U.S. Supreme Court decided a case called Michigan Dept. of State Police v. Spitz. The question in that case was whether states could use DUI checkpoints and briefly examine drivers for signs of intoxication without violating the constitution. The Court weighed the interests of the state in keeping drunk drivers off of the road against the interests of the drivers in not being detained. The Court sided with the state, and held that DUI checkpoints are not unconstitutional.

So what does that actually mean? That means that states are allowed to operate DUI checkpoints to check drivers for signs of intoxication. This would, naturally, include stopping drivers and interacting with them to see if they had glassy eyes, slurred speech, and/or smelled like alcohol.

But there are restrictions. If they’re not running a DUI checkpoint, the police have to have a reason to pull your car over. This can be for any traffic violation, moving (like speeding) to non-moving (having an expired license plate). And, until the U.S. Supreme Court’s recent decision in Heien v. North Carolina, the police had to had to be legally about their legal reason for initiating a traffic stop. Not anymore.

If you decide to try Mr. Gray’s trick for avoiding a DUI checkpoint be aware the police have every right to insist that you speak with them. Although it worked for him, it probably won’t work for you.

Sam proudly represents those accused of crimes and injured through no fault of their own throughout the greater Tampa Bay area.

Read all posts by Sam Harden
Continue Reading...

Links

Developed in partnership with SanFran Coders.

Blogroll

The acronyms DUI, DWI, OMVI and OVI all refer to the same thing: operating a vehicle under the influence of alcohol or drugs. The most commonly used terms are DUI, an acronym for Driving Under the Influence, and DWI, an acronym for Driving While Impaired.
© Copyright 2010 - 2015 MY OVI | Developed by San Fran Coders